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« on: September 27, 2007, 04:20:06 PM »



UPDATE: Please note the chnage of date to the 18th of November, this is due to the principle instructor being called away on operations.

Principle Course Overview

All levels of CT and HRT Training will be offered, from basic introduction to advanced levels. These will be held at various times throughout the year, in one and two day training packages.

Stirling Airsoft will cover all aspects of Hostage Rescue, including advanced weapons skills.

Our Training courses are tailored to included any or all of the following or specific elements depending on time factors and students level of experience. Courses are offered at basic introductory level through to advanced, and are designed to enable a unit to become an effective operational Counter Terrorist Team.

Core training Elements

Command and Control / Operational Planning
Holding Area / Containment and Inner Cordons
Immediate Action Plan
Close Target Reconnaissance
O.P. Set Up / Urban Hides / Camouflage
Intel Gathering / Surveillance Techniques / Optics and night vision aids
Sniper Training and Deployment / Use of Camouflage, Urban, Rural
Sniper Co-ordinated / Initiated Assault
Approach Techniques / Stealth / Rapid / Shield Approach
Use of Single Ladders, Double Ladders and Platforms
Silent Entry Techniques
MOE / Breaching
CQB / Room Clearing / Corridors / Stair wells
4 Man, 6 Man, and 8 Man Teams, Single and Multiple Entries
Room Entry with Compact Shield
Stoppage Drills / Man Down Scenarios
Control and Removal of Hostages and Suspects.


COUNTER TERRORISM TEAM SKILLS

Assault team weapon handling skills, day and night
Room combat
2 man, 4 man, 6 man and 8 man room combat drills
Multi team drills
Combat medic and extraction techniques
Initial recce-inner / outer cordon / containment, day / night
Recce -sniper positions, day / night
Recce -lines of approach, assault teams in and out, day and night
Preparation of immediate action / deliberate option plans with hostages
Preparation of immediate action / deliberate option plans without hostages
Hostage handling and containment
Clearance of buildings in hostile area
Use of pyrotechnics
Multi- floor, multi- entry drills
Communications
Training exercises, real time scenarios


SPECIALIST COUNTER TERRORISM TEAM SKILLS

Stronghold area clearance and containment (inner and outer cordons)
Ladders (types, usage, carriage, and improvised)
Covert/overt, day/night, entry techniques
Multi stronghold options
Obstacle breaching
Advanced weapons skills
Team briefings and orders format
Hostage and prisoner extraction, and holding areas
Training exercises, real time scenarios


OPERATIONAL PLANNING

Intelligence requirements
Man power
Service support
Specialised equipment
Location of hostages
Sequence of events
IA planning
Medical response
Holding area
Post assault procedures
Building assaults
Training exercises, real time scenarios

Location is Coventry NAC Stonleigh.
All on site for 08:30hrs
End Ex 18:00hrs

Price each: £30
Team Members £25
Only Dynatec training grenades allowed on site 12 gauge or 9mm.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2007, 01:30:15 PM »

I would like to book 2 places on this course.
(Both airsoft beginners, one with SA Army experience).

Q1. What kit is required for the course?
Q2. Are there still places available?
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 04:32:47 PM »

Hi there,

Yes we still have places left on this course.

If you have a look on our main webpage there is a link to a booking form and the correct address to post your booking form off to.

Kit list required is black BDU's - or an all on one black assault suit if you have one
A good pair of sturdy black boots and a AEG that is suitable for CQB (something like an MP5, M4 SEAL or a UMP)

Any more questions just post them up here and I'll get back to you  Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2007, 02:40:23 PM »

Gay Gay Gay!!!  Change of date means I can't make this one now!   Cry

EDIT:  OK, the guest I had has fractured his ankle, which is unfortunate, but on the plus side, it means I CAN come to this one!  Woo hoo!  Thankyou God - you do work in mysterious ways!!
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2007, 08:32:33 PM »

Any more questions just post them up here and I'll get back to you  Smiley

(Booking form sent on Saturday)

Is there anything you can recommend reading in advance?

For example, I've found a US Army infantry guide at http://www.milsci.ucsb.edu/FMS/FM7-8.pdf

Is there a British equivalent?

Is there a better resource to prepare for the course?

Sorry about all the questions, but I'd like to be as prepared for the course as possible.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 10:29:02 AM »

There is one but I am fairy sure that it is restricted / classified.

An infantry guide wouldnt give you much background into CQB (having thumbed through one once) Its something that you really need to have a go at to learn quickly as its all based around team work and reacting to events as they happen and the layout of the building.

Don't worry about reading up too much, it will all be covered in the training.

Just make sure you get a good nights sleep on Saturday, a good breakfast and be ready to learn a lot!

As this will be your first training session you'll probably start off with simple small room, single door entry drills. The training is designed to build up the more training you attend. Once the basic of what's supposed to happen including all phases and communications are understood then you have to make it all actually happen (and that takes a LOT of practice)

I'm sure you'll have a great day and will get to take part in some building assaults.  Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2007, 08:35:57 AM »

I'm really looking forward to it.

It is a shame that you can't recommend anything, even on simple stuff like hand-signals.

I'm going to travel up on the Saturday night.  Can you recommend a place to stay nearby?
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2007, 01:54:42 PM »

I'd have a word to Matt Belgrove about places to stay in Coventry or Bagginton.

As for hand signals, CQB isn't usually that sneaky beaky after you've gone loud - you'll need a good shouting voice to scream commands through a respirator and make them heard over the sound of blazing MP5's.  The non-verbal signals used before the entry are very simple in order to prevent confusion, and I'm sure you'll learn these on the day.  The rest is largely planned beforehand - everyone has specific duties in order to keep the plan simple and effective. 

I shouldn't worry too much SlowJoe; the days are brilliant, and you're almost guaranteed to be doing nice slick room entries by the end of the day.
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2007, 01:55:33 PM »

Check out on the Internet the following;

The Oak (In Baggington)                Medium price / really nice place
The Old Mil (In Baggington)         Medium price / really nice place
Stone leigh park village                 Cheap as chips / Basic as hell

All are very close indeed to where the training will be held.

As for hand signals that won't be covered until much later on in training when you learn covert approaches. You'll find you'll be doing a lot more shouting than hand signals, when you get the 'Standby, Standby, GO' you keep your weapon up and leave hand signals behind  Smiley

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2007, 12:11:21 PM »

Check out on the Internet the following;

The Oak (In Baggington)                Medium price / really nice place
The Old Mil (In Baggington)         Medium price / really nice place
Stone leigh park village                 Cheap as chips / Basic as hell

All are very close indeed to where the training will be held.

As for hand signals that won't be covered until much later on in training when you learn covert approaches. You'll find you'll be doing a lot more shouting than hand signals, when you get the 'Standby, Standby, GO' you keep your weapon up and leave hand signals behind  Smiley

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The Oak booked - check
Arranged to borrow sat-nav - check
Car serviced - check

Can't wait.  Anyone else staying at the Oak Saturday night?  They said they were "very busy", and I don't think it's a coincidence.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2007, 03:01:46 PM »

Slowjoe, you will find that some of the team will be staying at the oak, & probably a few of us will be dining there on the sat night, so you wont be without company, as for your previous concerns, i can only echo what Jimmy & Ed have already said,  Your instructors on the day will teach you their formula of training one that is used by all of us! (team stirling & the instructors) so we all sing out the same hymm book so to speak, you will need a good attitude to absorb the training & a good voice to shout  commands etc through your ressi! or mask!, as long as you follow the drills your instructor gives you, you wont be a duck out of water & you will flow with the day & throughly enjoy yourself.

we have had people who have never picked up  an airsoft weapon b4 & they walked away slick by the end of the session. just turn up be yourself & prepare to learn or sharpen up on what you already know!

i look forward to seeing you there

keith.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2007, 02:18:13 PM »

Just like to say thanks for an Awesome day guy's!

All the Stirling guy's involved were excellent!

Me and my buddy had never done anything like this before (we hadn't even been to an airsoft skirmish before!) but by the end of the day we'd learnt tons.

We were so impressed were going to make this a regular thing so that when the big  counter terrorist weekender comes up will be ready to rock!
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 12:18:17 AM »

Thanks to the Stirling team for a fun day in spite of the awful weather.  I was just glad we were mostly in the building rather than outside.  I had few flakes of snow on the windscreen on my way back to London.  It was my first training experience, and it was the best thing I've done since I took up airsoft.

What I took away from the training was that attention to detail pays off.  (My favourite is the "violin grip" to keep the elbow from the supporting hand in.  So simple, so obvious once it's pointed out.)  Practice make perfect.  I reckon if we had the patience to spend a week on the building, we'd still have been learning at the end of it.  Still, we were a darn-sight better at 5pm that when we parked up and signed in in the morning.

Regarding the event, the one snafu was delayed kickoff.  I don't know the cause (I suspect late arrivals),  but standing around for an hour or so was one part of  "real army life" that could hurt Stirling as a business.   

A solution might be to schedule a stand-alone workshop for early arrivals.  Something like a one hour comms usage session or discussion of tactical vests or laser sights/torch usage or clothing or boots or debugging an assault or evacuation  plan or pretty much anything would probably do.  Really, we're not a tough audience! 

I think it would motivate people to get there from kick-off, without damaging the rest of the event, and could allow the PSD posse to mingle with the
CTT crowd.

One other thing that would have been great was a team Stirling demonstration of clearing the building.  Some of your guys might not be allowed to do this, of course.  I'm thinking tonight back through the day.  There was so much I was doing wrong to start with, that I know I'm doing better now.  On the other hand, I'll bet that some of you guys are going "we moved them from stage one/awful to stage two/dodgy".  If we saw a demo, at the end, it would push home that there is a way to go, still. 

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2007, 01:45:17 PM »

Slowjoe,
Glad to hear you enjoyed the training day & hopefully we will see you at the next ones & future stirling events

Thanks for the feedback on the course that you gave, its alwas good to know how you guys felt the experience went, as everyone gets something different out of each one we do.

As for having to wait around, again i take your comments on board, but must say there was a slight type error on the forum looking back with a be on site time from around 08:30hrs  to be onsite for 08:30hrs, with a start time of 10:00hrs.
this time beforehand is used for administrational purposes & personal admin time. from my recall the breifing (for the CRW element) was underway by 10:00hrs. which went from welcome- to breif- to initial grouping & planning stages.

like i said our actual start time is always 10:00 hrs and we were on track with this.

i do appologise if you felt that you were left hanging around, however for future events, please feel free to come & speak to an instructor or member of staff before an event, pose any questions you may have, the stirling team will gladly answer any questions you have or if you need any advice or personal tuition prior to the days event or training, we want you to make the most of your time with us & get the most out of your experience. the members of team stirling who are not staffing an event are usually going through their pre training or planning for what they will be doing that day prior to the event kicking off.. there is always someone for you to speak to, to watch/ observe, to learn & to join in with.

thanks for attending & we look forward to seeing you at the next one

Keith.
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